tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post2293034602304347744..comments2023-11-03T03:37:02.548-05:00Comments on WEBSTER'S BLOGSPOT: Oklahoma Indians, here's your manTerry Morrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-52853060152049208262008-07-13T16:58:00.000-05:002008-07-13T16:58:00.000-05:00Thank you, and Thank your Dad,I like your d...Thank you, and Thank your Dad,<BR/><BR/>I like your dad already....I don't give out my likes loosely either. <BR/><BR/>You said expressions of display are just for show. But I do like a hug once in a while....Chairman Coffey gave me one yesterday, made me feel good considering yeagley says "the old women cause the trouble in our Nation" Chairman Coffey knows better. I don't even have to kiss up to him either, like you know who tries, in fact I the Chairman respects Honesty up front. Chairman Coffey is my Comanche family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-28528188438315953242008-07-13T11:42:00.000-05:002008-07-13T11:42:00.000-05:00Anonymous,Jason's fine, he just has trouble follow...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Jason's fine, he just has trouble following the train to the caboose, that's all.<BR/><BR/>Yeagley quit the conversation because he realized that to answer those questions, either way, would expose a contradiction in his thinking...<BR/><BR/>I'm not going to speak for my Dad more than just in broad terms like I've already spoken. If he wants to share in more detail his beliefs concerning Indians and Indian affairs, then that's <I>his</I> to do. Remember, though, I also said that Dad and I don't quite see eye-to-eye on the Indian question. There's also at least one more post in the Webster archives which explains a bit more about my Dad's feelings concerning Indians. But in a nutshell, Dad's quite a bit more sympathetic to Indians than I am.Terry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-59885231146861049912008-07-13T10:05:00.000-05:002008-07-13T10:05:00.000-05:00Mr. Morris,"I rest my case"I hope your not on...Mr. Morris,<BR/><BR/>"I rest my case"<BR/><BR/>I hope your not one of those Judges that are in for life...that makes a decision that ruins a life because of ill conceived feelings. I would absolutley never be a "JUDGE", I have my opinions, but they are mine, I have a right to them.<BR/><BR/>I am very curious about how your Father feels about the Native American. Did I miss the explaination, other than what was it....you said something to the effect that... the more we speak the less you like us?<BR/><BR/>I think Jason sounds like a very upright Educated Indian Male making his case with words..not violence...we need more Indian men to speak up and out, actually Indian Women too, thanks Jason. Indians that have been INDIANS ALL THEIR LIVES AND ARE PROUD OF IT...NOT YEAGLEY COMES LATELY....I REST MY CASE....OOPS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-84021106707066531462008-07-13T03:22:00.000-05:002008-07-13T03:22:00.000-05:00Well now, there ya go. I rest my case.Well now, there ya go. I rest my case.Terry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-59908553092957567092008-07-13T00:44:00.000-05:002008-07-13T00:44:00.000-05:00I vote. You vote. He and she votes.Treaties were...I vote. You vote. He and she votes.<BR/><BR/>Treaties were made, for the land you live in by your government. All of them were broken to some degree by the government. The government broke it's word time and time again.<BR/><BR/>What it seems your advocaing is another lie, another failure to comply with an agreement.<BR/><BR/>You are American, I am Native first, then American. What you argue for makes you basically my enemy. It's against the best interests of my people. <BR/><BR/>Your focused on this us against them mentality. I am not interested in that. I have many friends of all colors and nationalities. We have drinks, dinner, etc.<BR/><BR/>It doesn't seem that I could do that with you at all, American or not. <BR/><BR/>However, have a good night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-54755212595760559712008-07-12T21:58:00.000-05:002008-07-12T21:58:00.000-05:00jdogg,It's not my purpose to be your enemy, truly....jdogg,<BR/><BR/>It's not my purpose to be your enemy, truly. You're an American and I'm an American, and if nothing else, that should unite us ... at least to a certain degree.<BR/><BR/>When I say that your argument is "self-contradictory", this is what I mean:<BR/><BR/>You vote in the U.S. elections by your own admission. Additionally, you're here arguing a political perspective (am I right to assume that you also argue the same perspective with friends and relatives; people in your circle of influence?, perhaps even at other blogs and websites?). If you really thought that me and my people (and you and your people by implication) had no say in the matter, why would you waste your time voting and arguing your position?<BR/><BR/>Thomas Jefferson (among others) certainly didn't believe that dead men had/have any power to rule over the living. I can provide you with a few quotes if you like.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comments.<BR/><BR/>-TerryTerry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-75425786655699504792008-07-12T16:21:00.000-05:002008-07-12T16:21:00.000-05:00I'm still not sure where you think I'm contradicto...I'm still not sure where you think I'm contradictory and exactly what point your trying to make? It's confusing as all get out.<BR/><BR/>Also, I don't really work tirelessly at anything politically. I vote, that's about it. Where you decided to make me a political activist is really curious and and odd tangent, perhaps because you have no real argument.<BR/><BR/>The dead people you refer to I assume are the makers of the constitution, writers of treaties, creators of laws. If you want to change the laws that is your perogative but I can't imagine you'll go very far with that idea. Funny thing about agreements and the like, they were meant not to be broken and you know, made to adhere to.<BR/><BR/>No the only reason you and others like you whine about the state of Native america is because you feel disenfranchised. It's highly ironic in that if you ever paid a visit to Native American, particularly the Navajo rez or some of places in SD, you'd come to find that things are not all rosy in "tax free" world. <BR/><BR/>Anglos can be funny. Back in Oklahoma everyone thought i got a check in the mail for being Indian and in Texas people asked if we lived in teepees still. <BR/><BR/>Anglos can more often than not have a very warped idea of Native america and this informs their thinking oftentimes, sadly. They can have very strong argument built upon shoddy framework; the foundations are flimsy and it only gets worse from there. <BR/><BR/>As a Native, we can and have to live in this country we call the US of A and we continue to be tribal peoples. It's not hard but anglos can make it sound hard. <BR/><BR/>And so we come back to what I think is at the heart of your argument, how can I live and participate in this country while staying Native? The answer is simple, you just do. Your practice your ceremonies, you try to reclaim your languages that you were forbidden to speak by US of A and you keep on keeping on. You do it for your families and your children. You do it cause your Native.<BR/><BR/>It's really not that difficult when you don't have any other choice. Perhaps it's just a Native thing and you wouldn't understand? When one is part of something greater than themselves, when one has an actual culture, you just contribute and participate and continue it. It's that easy. <BR/><BR/>Being without culture, it may be difficult to empathize.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-21773894410356493692008-07-12T10:24:00.000-05:002008-07-12T10:24:00.000-05:00Anonymous,On the whole you've been very polite, an...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>On the whole you've been very polite, and I appreciate that. And I don't count it some kind of a weakness, by the way. Indeed, it reveals a strength of character that I wish more people possessed.<BR/><BR/>Now, if I've misinterpreted what you've said then let the fault be my own. But isn't part of what you're saying, in point of fact, that whites have defiled this land with their presence here? If not then I stand corrected.Terry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-72824059148565923202008-07-12T08:58:00.000-05:002008-07-12T08:58:00.000-05:00jdogg,Indians are just naturally polite, it s...jdogg,<BR/><BR/><BR/>Indians are just naturally polite, it seems though that the white world thinks this is submissiveness. We are polite and observant (not subservant) up to a point. <BR/><BR/>I just happen to notice that Doctor Yeagley wanted him to post him off air, so I just figured Doctor Yeagley did his ying/yang on him, thats the reason he calls me "Unhappy" and wishes me back to the "GOOD OLE DAYS." <BR/>"ON SECOND THOUGHT...IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO RIDE ALONG SIDE LOZEN, OR TAVE PETE EXCEPTIONAL WOMEN WARRIORS. On second thought..I can't shoot a bow from a horse or for that matter even ride one. I best stay in the modern world..but that doesn't mean I will ever forget what happened to my People......and want the TRUTH KNOWN.<BR/><BR/>Thanks J.D.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Mr. Morris says he has heard it all his LIFE, I can only guess that its from his parents first, their parents and so on. My Mother and Father never spoke ill of the White people, or nothing I can remember, the things I know, I experienced the prejudiced myself, on the buses, at school, at the stores, so on and so on, you know what though....when I leave Oklahoma....the prejudice seems to be left behind also. This American is a beautiful place...when we put aside our prejudices. The birthplace of myself is where I should feel most comfortable, by speaking out...maybe the Christian foreigners to "THE LAND OF THE RED MAN" Oklahoma, will one day see the light.<BR/><BR/>I hope Mr. Morris can get to know more of the Indians ways in person and not just heresay, but I doubt that will happen. People just tend to stick to their own, nothing bad or wrong about that, except you never really get to know each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-57909805569013301062008-07-12T08:30:00.000-05:002008-07-12T08:30:00.000-05:00jdogg,Yes, yes, I get it now. That me and my peop...jdogg,<BR/><BR/>Yes, yes, I get it now. That me and my people have no "realistic" say, instead of simply no say unqualified as you put it before, makes all the difference.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your very enlightening comments. <BR/><BR/>Apparently you subscribe to the idea with Yeagley that dead men ought to have power over the living, whether they be dead Indians or dead whites. And to make sure that these dead men retain their power over the living, you work tirelessly and ceaselessly within two separate governmental frameworks to establish the inviolability of the agreements made between one group of dead men and the other -- so long as the rivers flow and ... whatever.<BR/><BR/>But like Dr. Yeagley, you're not quite convinced that me and my people have no (realistic) say in the matter, so you go about trying to affect the outcome of the U.S. elections to ensure it. In other words, your statements are again self-contradictory. If you could keep from contradicting yourself you'd sound a lot more reasonable, don't ya know.<BR/><BR/>But anyway...<BR/><BR/>Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I find Dr. Yeagley to be oddly interesting. But his position is rather incoherent as far as I can tell. Like Call Me Mom, I find his manner of writing confusing as hell. I can't make heads or tails out of what he's trying to say to be honest with you. It is therefore impossible that he's "gotten to me" as you say, because I can't understand him. I'm speculating here, but it seems to me that he's trying to speak a hybrid dialect -- Indlish?<BR/><BR/>Last but not least, J,...<BR/><BR/>It's not that you've offended anyone, it's just that it's hard to follow a lengthy comment with no breaks. I appreciate your pledge to honor my request though.Terry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-41861732487549023622008-07-11T22:22:00.000-05:002008-07-11T22:22:00.000-05:00I wouldn't apologize to this guy anymomous. It se...I wouldn't apologize to this guy anymomous. It seems he is the bitter one and sees only negative comments within Native points of view such as yours. <BR/><BR/>Also he seems very curiously interested "allegiances " as if we were all going to war in the near future and he needs to know which "side" of the fence you live on, or more precisely he may subscribe to the whole age old anglo conservative adage of where his "taxpayer" money goes. He most likely and incorrectly assumes that he has a say in what agreements his own government has made, long before he was born. <BR/><BR/>It's trite and I've seen it all before. It's nothing new but it seems to continue in the heart of the midwest, this ignorance or selective memory of United States history.<BR/><BR/>If anyone is bitter it is Terry, for he cannot see reality as it is, but only as he wishes it to be perhaps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-85491051997557624212008-07-11T22:12:00.000-05:002008-07-11T22:12:00.000-05:00Terry,I'm saying that the rules are written with y...Terry,<BR/><BR/>I'm saying that the rules are written with your government. You and your people have no REALISTIC say in this matter in that the government to government relationship has been established. Really all you can do is accept this or whine about it under the guise of your political views, i.e. conservatism.<BR/><BR/>Understand now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-79739490305709859902008-07-11T18:45:00.001-05:002008-07-11T18:45:00.001-05:00Mr. Morris,Thats the problem...when WE INDIANS ...Mr. Morris,<BR/><BR/>Thats the problem...when WE INDIANS point out an issue the way we see it, and all we would like is to have the truth it in the school systems you think we are UNHAPPY. I have a loving family and three kids and 8 Grandchildren, we are not destitute. Now that would make me an uhappy person. <BR/><BR/>Design by Yeagley has already set in place that any outspoken Indian woman that is over 55 is and OLD MEAN, MALCONTENT, JEALOUS, whiney...he has got to you it seems.....since you think I am unhappy.<BR/><BR/>The Indian Stories ARE being placed out there, and it is thru out Comanche Nation College. I hope you change your attitude about our stories becoming "AN INDIAN REVOLT". Geeze, yeagley has really gotten to you. <BR/><BR/>I apologize again for getting off the topic of "OKLAHOMA INDIANS, HERE'S YOUR MAN". Contrary to anothers' belief....INDIANS do apologize.<BR/><BR/>There is not much more than I can say, since you say that you have heard it all your life, I can only guess that I bored you to no end...sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-5469671121128533262008-07-11T18:45:00.000-05:002008-07-11T18:45:00.000-05:00Mr. Morris,I ask that you forgive the haste that I...Mr. Morris,<BR/><BR/>I ask that you forgive the haste that I wrote my former comment in, I meant no disrespect toward you or the readers of your blog. Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience I have caused you or your readers. And rest assured that any further comments of great length will be written within the standards that you and your readers have established.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-59653103779564376362008-07-11T06:47:00.000-05:002008-07-11T06:47:00.000-05:00J, Not to be too nitpicky, but since this is my bl...J, <BR/><BR/>Not to be too nitpicky, but since this is my blog I'm going to make the following request of you:<BR/><BR/>Please try to follow the example of some of the other commenters here. Which is to say, try to break your comments down into paragraph form. You see, a lengthy comment like you've written above is somewhat difficult to follow when there are no breaks in it such as that which I'm going to insert here.<BR/><BR/>I see that you put your final statement in quotes. Does this mean that you're quoting an historical figure or something? If so I don't recognize the quote so I'd appreciate your giving attribution and citing some reference. But the statement does bring another quote to mind from Noah Webster:<BR/><BR/>"But reason without revelation is a miserable guide, it often errs from ignorance, and more often from the impulse of passion."<BR/><BR/>I think this was a general view among our Founding generation, and I certainly hold it to be truth. So we have to be careful about appealing to reason and reason alone. This is part of what Christianity and the doctrine of Divine Providence teaches us.Terry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-18594392481890076392008-07-11T06:03:00.000-05:002008-07-11T06:03:00.000-05:00The term racist gets tossed around these days with...The term racist gets tossed around these days with little forethought about what it actually means, or has meant in the past. In todays world the term "racist" is accepted without question as a bad term and for good reason since the generally accepted on the street definition, which can be summed up with "Intolerance or hate, the abuse of a person or group of people based on the color of their skin.", this definition has spread like wildfire engulfing entire nations in its devastating flames. And we are left with the charred remains of what used to be the idea that different groups of people are exactly that different, and now we find ourselves wandering through the ashes knowing that we cannot state any concerns or views about a group of people other than our own without immediately being labeled racist. This in my opinion is a sad state of affairs, when and why did it become so wrong to display an interest or concern about the effects of other ethnicities on your particular society? The common definition of racist in todays world cannot just be applied to white people, that is racist in itself by todays standard right? So we are left in the mix labeling each other racists accusing one anothers ancestry of being racist towards are own, this futile battle continues to rage onward as we speak. So where does the current common definition of racist originate from? Well some people will argue that it is a much needed representation of the facts that history has displayed for us, I tend to disagree with that for several reasons. I myself claim, by no means to be an expert on this subject I am just your average American, with the same access to our history that anyone else has. But by my definition of racism which is in no way associated with todays, the term racist simply means "A person that has come to the realization that separate groups of people are different in their ideas religion and customs." now some are going to say that this is simply denying the truth, or it is just a highly sugar coated version of the facts at hand. I'm not trying to personally settle an issue that people have been debating for years, what qualifications do I have to do so? Nor am I claiming that these are my uninfluenced or original thoughts on the subject, I will be the first to tell you that it simply isn't the case. But I have been blessed by my creator with the gift of reason, a gift that he has in trusted to all of us so we are able to discern truth from falsehood and right from wrong. So I ask the question is it hate or intolerance that leads a person to have concerns about other races and their effects on his or her society? Or is it just our own human nature trying to reveal to us the undeniable truth that we as separate groups of people are different? Let us exercise our gift or reason here and try our best to use it for the purpose that God intended it for, and not let it be clouded by todays display of constant name calling and endless bickering. In closing I humbly request that you do not allow yourselves to be engulfed in the flames of this current state of affairs and, reply to this with an onslaught of what I fear will be passionate reactions to what I have said here, but instead you allow yourselves to "Reason from past to present, and allow experience the least fallible guide of human opinions be appealed to for an answer to these questions".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-80182518995524400042008-07-11T05:42:00.000-05:002008-07-11T05:42:00.000-05:00Anonymous,Thanks again for your point of view. It...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for your point of view. It's a point of view I've heard all of my life.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure what to tell you other than this, why don't you advocate for complete Indian autonomy as part of a genuine Indian sovereignty? In any event, no one that I know of is stopping you from telling your story of Indian suffering to Indian children. But if it resulted in some kind of a subversive Indian revolt, then here we'd go again.<BR/><BR/>Christians consider the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God. Whenever the Bible says something plainly that can only be taken literally, then that's the way Christians interpret it (the plain things are the main things). In the opening pages of the Bible (Genesis) God tells man (Adam) to "be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth, and subdue it." That "subdue it" part means something to Christians. We don't just take what God said prior to that and reject the rest of it. Christians believe that the whole Word of God is truth, not just parts of it.<BR/><BR/>In a way I wish for you that you'd lived your life four hundred years ago when this continent was pure and undefiled by the presence of whites. Perhaps you'd have been a happier person then.Terry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-35264133747265868362008-07-10T23:07:00.000-05:002008-07-10T23:07:00.000-05:00Mr. Morris,We Indians are far from innocent, bu...Mr. Morris,<BR/><BR/>We Indians are far from innocent, but we are still here after all that has transpired throught our History, I think it is very interesting. I just wish the American School Systems would apply it as thourougly as they do all the other Peoples' History. It is not a pretty story nor romantic but its OUR STORY, deserves to be known thru the Education System just as we had to learn of the Euros coming <BR/>and taking over.<BR/><BR/>Have you heard of the Papal Bulls? I'm sure you've heard of the INDIAN BILL OF RIGHTS. There is soooooo much information even I as a full blood Comanche is still learning, everyday in speaking with someone, we learn from each other about something.... for instance Sacred Sites. The trouble is the Government has always held it back, because when we learn of <BR/>things, WE ASK QUESTIONS. THIS IS TABOO. Lot of Nations in the United States of America and lots of unanswered questions. Lots going thru my head at this moment. I know that the Indian has a lot of issues with the Government, but so do all other peoples.<BR/><BR/>We did not ask for these things the way they are..they were set in place by the first Foreign People who set out from Europe for Freedom of Religion oppression. These Christian Puritans imposed their immorality and call it being Christian on what they called lazy, dirty starving savages who were unable to take care of the beautiful land they occupied. These Christian Puritans had no clue that the Natives had always taken care of the Natural flow of the Land, that is until the White Euros arrived. Why the Native Americans were the first Ecologists. They followed the Food supply with the Seasons. Just becasue they roamed with the Seasons, the Euros thought they abandoned the land. The Native did not abandom but merely were following the Seasonal bounty. They were not in danger of starving, they knew the ecosystem, they knew that as they moved it allowed the land to rejuvenate. Not with the White Euros, they came they staked claim to a land that was not owned by anyone but shared by all, they took it for their own. they pretened to be friendly and traded for food items, then they took slaves, they killed women and children the geonocide started. The beginning of the end of the Indian story, because the Government does not want the truth told. This was started by the White Puritan Colonists, so they could reign on the White Throne, as Yeagley likes to point out so very often, and yes he is direct descendant of these White European Puritan, the ultimate racists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-20108375799956187842008-07-10T21:19:00.000-05:002008-07-10T21:19:00.000-05:00"Actually I acknowledge the present state of thing..."Actually I acknowledge the present state of things as they are now."<BR/><BR/>No you don't. You said that me and my people have no say in the matter. That's denying the present state of things as they are now.<BR/><BR/>Sorry.Terry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-45827991138453686542008-07-10T21:00:00.000-05:002008-07-10T21:00:00.000-05:00Actually I acknowledge the present state of things...Actually I acknowledge the present state of things as they are now. This doesn't negate anything about where I live and what role government plays in the place I reside.<BR/><BR/>I am made up of two nations yes and I reside in a third. It's not that hard to figure out. My loyalties lie with my Father and mother's people. It's not hard for me to reconcile at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-59787663377264058122008-07-10T20:17:00.000-05:002008-07-10T20:17:00.000-05:00jdogg, yes, very simple indeed.I see that you divi...jdogg, yes, very <I>simple</I> indeed.<BR/><BR/>I see that you divide your loyalties between the Comanche and Creek Nations. Do you divide them further as a citizen of the U.S.? A three-way citizenship?<BR/><BR/>You quote my statement as being at the "heart of all that is faulty" with my argument. That's fine. Can you narrow down the faultiness of my arguments any farther? I.e., can you be more specific about how my arguments are faulty?<BR/><BR/>Obviously I'm not God nor am I the President. But what authority does the latter (the President) have in any case according to your view? In other words, if me and my people are foreigners which have no say in the matter, then our government (the United States of America) is ipso facto illegitimate. Therefore the President (and Congress...) has no say in the matter; no legitimate claim to any authority in the matter whatsoever. Whatever treaties the United States government has entered into with the Indian Nations are therefore illegitimate and without authority.<BR/><BR/>So why the contradiction? Why do you acknowledge the autority of the treaties between the U.S. and the Indian Nations, yet deny them in the same breath?Terry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-83625557668899195142008-07-10T18:24:00.000-05:002008-07-10T18:24:00.000-05:00This comment right here gets at the heart of all t...This comment right here gets at the heart of all that is faulty with your argument...<BR/><BR/>"How ever they decide should determine citizenship and all the priveleges and immunities thereof."<BR/><BR/>You are not god nor president, and the the few agreements/treaties that the United States government hasn't broken were the agreements for healthcare (a sad cheap type of healthcare) and to retain our tribal identities through soverignty. I am Comanche and Creek through and through. I represent two tribes, two nations, and I also happen to live in the United States. The U.S. has made an agreement with my people that has nothing to do with you. You and your people are foreigners who came here. You have no choice or say in this matter. You come from elsewhere.<BR/><BR/>Simple enough?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-8046048518516955262008-07-10T17:21:00.000-05:002008-07-10T17:21:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-50916762199443777592008-07-09T23:32:00.000-05:002008-07-09T23:32:00.000-05:00Thank you for even ackknowledging me, Udah (T...Thank you for even ackknowledging me, Udah (Thanks)<BR/><BR/>I have been in the Indian Casinos from Phoenix to Philadelphia, Miss. I was so amazed at actually seeing real Indians working for a change in their own establishments. Beautiful, Beautiful places in the Deserts using their tradional designs. Apache Gold- San Carlos Indians, Sandia and Isleta casinos in <BR/> Albuquetque, Route 66-Laguana Pueblo, Cities of Gold-San Felip Pueblos, Oh-Kay in Sante Fe, Mes-Kwa-Tama Iowa, Dancing Eagle-Laguna Pueblo, Sky City-Acoma Pueblo, Mazatzal-Tonto Apache, Inn of the Mt. Gods- Mescalero, Wild Horse Pass Desert Diamond - Santa ver Pima, Casino Arizona - Pima, Casino Omaha- Omaha Indians, Silver Star& Golden Moon- Choctaw-Philadelphis Ms.. These are the beautiful Places I have visited from Arizona to Mississippi, now I am not a avid player, the most I have ever played was $30 and came out with $200 thats is tops, and I play only penny machines. My sisters love playing and I love the gift shops. And I love to travel my beloved America. <BR/><BR/>I was so impressed with the beauty and employed Indians out west. In the case of the Pima Indians, they also have their own shopping centers, Discout Cards to Native Americans at these centers, their own sand Co., Waste Co., Telephone Co, and much more, but they had these before the Casinos even came a major thing. Tribes do not rely soley on the Casino Revenue. <BR/><BR/>Now comes along our Casinos in Oklahoma, not so beautiful and they don't emphasize the "INDIAN THEME". Yes they are toooooo Glarrry, for lack of a better word. <BR/><BR/>I would like these in Oklahoma to employee Indians only, but they don't. I think they draw a certain amount of corruption, but so do Churches. I see it as a passing thing, but why not benefit while we can. I could not care less if our four Comanche Casinos shut down tomorrow, they employ more non-Indians than Indians. I don't frequent them. The Indians who live here have the same issues as non-natives. That is the only reason I supported the Casinos in the beginning, I thought since they would be solely run by Indians, we would have opportunity the non-indians have had all along with the job opportunities, but it is not so. There has been corruption in the Profits from the beginning. I wanted ours to copy the Southwest Indians and employ Indians only, with Native Themes but it did not happen, Oklahoma is too slow, and we thought we were progressive. <BR/><BR/>The non-indians do not want the Indians to Prosper, they hold us down at every step, they pass laws without consulting the people it would effect and cater to the Whites. Now don't get me wrong, I have lived here all my life. I know its up to the individual to keep abreast of their own life and surroundings, but when the job opportunities are not there and its a struggle to keep afloat we don't always take interest in the Government as we should.<BR/><BR/>You are right in a way, we have two Governments to keep tract of, I think that is where we fail as Indians, because we think our own Government is taking the steps to insure our welfare, they don't always do it and we get left out of a lot of opportunities. The state Government does not cater to us if we don't keep up ourselves we lose out. We need to become more aware of our Tribal Governments activities to make sure they are taking advantage of the State level for our Nation.<BR/><BR/>Long answer, but a lot more could be said. I am just an average Comanche, not Einstien like Yeagley. But unlike him, I know my people, and we all want to provide for our families just as any other American citizen. We are not "HANG AROUND THE FORT DRUNKEN INDIANS WAITING FOR ROTTEN MEAT AND HANDOUTS" Thats his opinion of MY COMANCHE PEOPLE. He needs to read updated material on the American Inians of TODAY..stop romanticising on the past, BUT REST ASSURED WE WILL NOT FORGET OUR PAST, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO RELIVE IT....MY EXCLAMATION BUTTON IS BROKEN.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1763883859696167228.post-13208258501444220082008-07-09T19:46:00.000-05:002008-07-09T19:46:00.000-05:00Anonymous,First, thank you for the comments. I'd ...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>First, thank you for the comments. I'd be very interested in your view of Indian Gaming. For instance, what do you think about all these casinos cropping up all over this state, making it look like a spread-out version of Atlantic City or Las Vegas? Literally I want to cry every time I drive by that monstrosity on I-40 in Shawnee. And it's going to get worse before it gets better. We have a big one going up near my home as we speak.<BR/><BR/>Now, if you know anything about Dr. Yeagley at all, you know more about him than I. Don't get me wrong, I've known he's around for a while, but I've not read him much until very recently.<BR/><BR/>That said, I would say that my concluding comment in the original post (the more they speak the more I dislike them) brought about a lot of Dr. Yeagley's initial ire. In other words, I had it coming. I've apologized over at Bad Eagle, and the apology truly is sincere. I'm not going to remove the statement from the post, however, because that would just add confusion to the issue. I will say this however...<BR/><BR/>I was really prodding at my dad more than anything when I made the statement. I realize how the statement comes across to Indians now that I've thought more about it, and now I wish I had never put it in those terms, but it was really intended as sort of a half-hearted joke. You see, Dad and I don't quite see eye-to-eye on this whole Indian thing. But I want you to know that I don't dislike you or any Indian because of your race. I just didn't care for what Dr. Yeagley wrote in his article, and it came out all wrong in that final statement.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the comments. I hope you'll answer my question about your view of Indian Gaming.<BR/><BR/>-TerryTerry Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166609562028309038noreply@blogger.com